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Post by Jessica on Mar 20, 2009 22:22:22 GMT
That looks really good! we have got to get one soon - Look froward to see the photos of it in use...
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Post by muze on Apr 4, 2009 19:00:26 GMT
We called the guy Rod and ordered one of these, really helpful bloke.
£150 including delivery, have to supply the battery though as they kept getting damaged in transit, but they aren't expensive.
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Post by matt on Apr 4, 2009 22:43:44 GMT
great bit of kit you wont be disapointed.  |
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Post by muze on Apr 16, 2009 16:42:26 GMT
Machine arrived yesterday, only a couple of weeks after ordering.
Really well built, proper job but lightweight and easy to use.
The guy Rod who builds them has been really good, keeping in touch, can't fault him.
Defo recommend them.
Will try to get some pics/vids of it going when the sun reappears.
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Post by grchmason on Apr 16, 2009 19:08:16 GMT
Machine arrived yesterday, only a couple of weeks after ordering. Really well built, proper job but lightweight and easy to use. The guy Rod who builds them has been really good, keeping in touch, can't fault him. Defo recommend them. Will try to get some pics/vids of it going when the sun reappears. That sounds Excellent service  Look forward to seeing the pics/vids Cheers Tarren |
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Post by stanley on Apr 16, 2009 21:09:58 GMT
Looks like a very good bit off kit !
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Post by matt on May 14, 2009 18:09:32 GMT
fooookin motor burnt out today. we tryed to make a ring the full lenghth of string about 250 yards, not happy as lou was getting fast, now i have got to get it reconed.
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Post by grchmason on May 14, 2009 19:40:56 GMT
fooookin motor burnt out today. we tryed to make a ring the full lenghth of string about 250 yards, not happy as lou was getting fast, now i have got to get it reconed. Have you tried giving the bloke a ring he might sort something out for you. You aint had it long either mate Gutted for ya Tarren |
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Post by hiphoplyricalrobot on May 14, 2009 19:45:07 GMT
Owen makes a tidy lure, last ya for years, not cheap though
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Post by dog on May 14, 2009 19:46:27 GMT
I hate to say I told you so (well I don't actually lol) but the design of most lure machines is very poor, as the saying goes they're not fit for purpose. High quality lure machines from germany cost close to £1000 so something that cost £150 is always going to be a compromise, most motors used aren't meant for use of more than 10 seconds at a time (approx 100m) and need to cool between uses otherwise the solder that is used in the motor can melt, that's why I added cooling fans to mine. The motors are also massively oversized (approx 5-6 times) because of the inefficient speed control using a solenoid, a proper speed control would mean you could reduce the size of the motor and battery and also stop the problem of the solenoid over heating and sticking in the on position. The use of braided line is also a problem, it greatly increases the friction and therefore stress on the motor, fishing line will reduce friction and contrary to popular belief will not cut the dogs pads where as braided line can (if you're not careful), it burns through pads very quickly because of the increased friction.
To reduce stress on the motor use fishing line (non braided), limit the runs to 100m, allow the motor to cool between uses and keep a close eye on how hot the motor is getting, if you can't hold your hand on it for a long period it's too hot.
I could design and make a machine that is suitable for continuous use with a decent speed control but it would be 2-3 times the price of the machine that you bought, unfortunately most people don't want to spend that much but it would last.
As long as you get the motor repaired and it doesn't keep breaking down then that's a fair price but you need to acknowledge it's limitations.
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Post by hiphoplyricalrobot on May 14, 2009 19:48:39 GMT
Told ya ! never underestimate dogs machines, hes a genieye |
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Post by matt on May 14, 2009 20:22:38 GMT
woooooooooooooo slow down!!! i think you lot got hold of the wrong end of this.  the ring we made up was through roofing u bolts and didnt run freely enough through them. but me and my "that will be alright" atitude, carried on running the dogs on it, so as for it being the design fault it was more like a matt fault,other than this slight hicup (caused by me) its a great piece of training equipment.rod did tell me to use runners that he makes with bearing in them. |
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Post by hiphoplyricalrobot on May 14, 2009 20:26:42 GMT
Silly Billy
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Post by matt on May 14, 2009 20:29:06 GMT
thats me neil. sorry to burst dogs bubble, he was enjoying that wasnt he? i am hoping the recon will only cost about 20 or 30 quid. |
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Post by dog on May 14, 2009 20:37:00 GMT
I know what you mean Matt but it's easy to over load the motor on it because of the design...not that it won't do the job, it will last well as long as you're careful with how it's set up and used.
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Post by hiphoplyricalrobot on May 14, 2009 20:38:02 GMT
He was mate, you cant burst his bubble though mate, he just loves engineering mate, pretty bloody hot too ! If you get any more bother give him a tinkle
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Post by matt on May 14, 2009 20:55:39 GMT
i was only messing with you about the bubble thing i know owens clued up on the electrical engineering side of things, i thought it was hardier than it is, but as owen says it will and does work well, i just need to realise its limitations.this will probably cost me a few quid. my pal said about it needing a fan.he is in the process of making one out of a land rover starter. which should prove more robust for using with more dogs. |
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Post by martinl on Aug 27, 2009 19:09:59 GMT
any news on these dog? throwing these balls is playin havoc with my bad shoulder and elbow lol
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Post by hiphoplyricalrobot on Aug 27, 2009 22:15:14 GMT
Im sure Owen(dog) will be willing to make you one, his work shop is now up an running but his computer is down. If you like send me your number and you can talk to him direct as we talk daily, atb, Neil PS i can assure you Owens work is second to none. |
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Post by gafeli on Aug 28, 2009 7:07:00 GMT
I would defo be interested in one of these also.
Any chance you can get a price Neil cheers Glen.
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Post by hiphoplyricalrobot on Aug 29, 2009 12:06:41 GMT
yes glen, no bother.
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Post by martinl on Sept 3, 2009 15:55:39 GMT
any news  |
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Post by TS on Jun 29, 2010 14:33:52 GMT
What kind twine you use in this machine? I need to find longer twine for my machine and also this black thing what roll twine and affix it into box. And of course paint box    |
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Post by phillnjack on Sept 15, 2010 22:55:20 GMT
Hello folks new here ,but have to say something about the above pic of lure machine. That will not work any good, if at all.A model plane/car/boat starter is no way powerfull enough and not fast enough. Ive got sullivan starters and tried them. no good at all. A portable drill with 9 inch pushbike wheel is ok, but looks crap. im gonna use a inertia starter from a mini, and a plastic wheel from welding wire (large size). Now considering the amount of power needed to start old mini's this should be ideal. (should be is the word ). Pulling a piece of twine around a field might not sound like much, but if you consider the amount of twine on the ground from say 300 yards, your now looking at about 1 square metre . Again sounds like nothing, but now think of it cutting deep into the grass and you start to realise the amount of drag. The yanks use starters from v8 engines and without fans they burn em out. So with using a mini starter the first thing to do is to undo the shroud and let some air in/out to keep the motor cooler. I can see where the fellow called dog is comming from about the solenoid going wrong, BUT it migh be ok if you use a continous solenoid . I have heard about the solder joints melting if used for long periods, but that sounds a bit extreme unless snagged badly, or not using rollers for thre bends etc. And nothing stopping you from getting the joints silver soldered for hotter uses. I do agree that car starters seem well over the top for pulling a plastic bag around a field. And i like the idea sea fishing reels attached to small motors seems like the best way to go for smaller compact machines. Thats what the germans do with their stuff, and they charge a fortune for them. Maybe a high powered brushless motor from a remote controlled high performance car is what is needed ? but i have the mini starter, the plastic drum and so im going to give it a try very soon. probably put on some pics showing it going up in a cloud of smoke (the machine not the dog) Here is a small vid of a whippet chasing the drill powered lure you need to click on it to see it..  phill |
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the ring we made up was through roofing u bolts and didnt run freely enough through them. but me and my "that will be alright" atitude, carried on running the dogs on it, so as for it being the design fault it was more like a matt fault,other than this slight hicup (caused by me) its a great piece of training equipment.rod did tell me to use runners that he makes with bearing in them.
