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Post by Jessica on Sept 30, 2009 8:41:08 GMT
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Post by jaysteph on Sept 30, 2009 8:52:02 GMT
the more i c your bulldogs the more i want 1 they really r top dogs
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Post by ...Paul... on Sept 30, 2009 20:42:55 GMT
i agree jay. the only people i would get a bulldog from would be levitts. they ar fab. all of your dogs jess are great!
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Post by mbb on Sept 30, 2009 20:52:31 GMT
they are looking stunning
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Post by Jessica on Sept 30, 2009 21:00:25 GMT
Thank you all for your kind comments !!
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Post by southern-staffords on Sept 30, 2009 21:10:41 GMT
2 awesome Bulldogs, Keep em coming Jess.
Billy's my fave ;-)
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Post by katewoo on Oct 1, 2009 8:36:45 GMT
Wicked pics Jess, especially the escapee jumping over the gate, lol!! ;D ;D
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Post by max on Oct 1, 2009 16:02:58 GMT
They both look great Jessica..
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Post by shakkastaffs on Oct 2, 2009 1:30:07 GMT
i remember when we first saw them rosa has always been my favorite but they have grown soo much now and Billy has turned out amazing.
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Post by grchmason on Oct 2, 2009 8:53:18 GMT
They just get better and better everytime i see them Credit to you and Steve!!!! Tarren
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Post by hiphoplyricalrobot on Oct 2, 2009 12:07:51 GMT
Top Dogs steve and Jessica, great camara
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Post by Rik on Oct 2, 2009 13:32:52 GMT
I've been on this forum for 3 day now. Until 3 days ago i've never seen a desent bulldog in my live. This treuly is something else....
Keep on posting bulldogs pics like this! YEEEHAAA!!!
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Post by mno on Oct 2, 2009 18:31:02 GMT
They are lovely and so nice natured.
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Post by grchmason on Oct 5, 2009 10:41:51 GMT
What is your model camera again Jess???
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Post by quinlent on Oct 5, 2009 16:38:33 GMT
Amazing good bulldogs WOW
Marco
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Post by wybren on Oct 5, 2009 17:37:32 GMT
I agree guys. These dogs are impressive. It's very good to see bulldogs like this. They really look fit for function!
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Post by tb68 on Oct 5, 2009 18:54:21 GMT
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Post by Jessica on Oct 5, 2009 20:12:02 GMT
I think Rosa is the smallest and lightest framed bulldog you will see.... There are a few points we want to improve on with her with breeding, and she is still maturing.She has another year or so of growing left in her. She is the complete other end of the bulldog scale say your Hecta. I have seen your boy in the flesh - he is certainly bigger! He is impressive to see. I have learnt over time that peoples opinions and tastes when it comes to 'alternative' bulldogs vary dramatically. The problem i think is that most of our dogs are based on a somewhat vague descriptions, accounts and art work etc. We are all aiming for the same goal in the end i guess - just with different takes on it? I can kind of appreciate your type, and understand in some aspects of were you are coming from. If I'm honest Hecta wouldn't my bulldog of choice - as I'm sure ours wouldn't be yours. I definitely think he is certainly an improvement of the British bulldog, and going the right way to a better bulldog.... but a different way to that of our dogs. Just out of interest from one bulldogger to another, i hope you don't mind me asking you I'm just curious; what do you want out of your bulldogs? I know the aims as far as improving the British bulldog idea but is there anything more now that you have improved on them, or personal reasons as a breeder? It nice to have a bulldog man on here its always good to hear these opinions. ;D
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Post by Jessica on Oct 5, 2009 20:16:56 GMT
What is your model camera again Jess??? Canon eso1000d - i think?! I'm not great at remembering stuff like that - better off asking Steve!
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Post by Jessica on Oct 5, 2009 20:19:52 GMT
I've been on this forum for 3 day now. Until 3 days ago i've never seen a desent bulldog in my live. This treuly is something else.... Keep on posting bulldogs pics like this! YEEEHAAA!!! Thank you that is a lovely compliment - I am pleased you like them
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Post by Jessica on Oct 5, 2009 20:21:54 GMT
They are lovely and so nice natured. Thank-you
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Post by Jessica on Oct 5, 2009 20:25:48 GMT
Amazing good bulldogs WOW Marco Coming from you that means a lot - Thank you ;D
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Post by Jessica on Oct 5, 2009 20:34:06 GMT
I agree guys. These dogs are impressive. It's very good to see bulldogs like this. They really look fit for function! It it is nice to know others enjoy them - Thank you for your nice comments
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Post by tb68 on Oct 6, 2009 10:39:30 GMT
I have learnt over time that peoples opinions and tastes when it comes to 'alternative' bulldogs vary dramatically. The problem i think is that most of our dogs are based on a somewhat vague descriptions, accounts and art work etc. We are all aiming for the same goal in the end i guess - just with different takes on it?. Each creator of the "alternative" bulldogge had their own set of goals and mental pictures when setting out to create their ideal dogge,hence imo the difference in type from strain -strain. I have to agree that during the course of my research I have noticed that each creators final outcomes are very similar. I can kind of appreciate your type, and understand in some aspects of were you are coming from. If I'm honest Hecta wouldn't my bulldog of choice - as I'm sure ours wouldn't be yours. I definitely think he is certainly an improvement of the British bulldog, and going the right way to a better bulldog.... but a different way to that of our dogs. I also can appriciate your dogs but like you they wouldnt be my dog of choice. BUT we both are in a very exciting but also important position. What I mean by that is that we have been invited (as you know the bulldogge world is very small and selective where breeding is concerned) to continue the work started by others but at the same time be able put our own mark on our particular breedings.This I look at as a previlage as we have been entrusted with a life time of each creators blood, sweat tears and heart-ache. So its down to people like our-selves to continue the good work started by others. Just out of interest from one bulldogger to another, i hope you don't mind me asking you I'm just curious; what do you want out of your bulldogs? I know the aims as far as improving the British bulldog idea but is there anything more now that you have improved on them, or personal reasons as a breeder? It nice to have a bulldog man on here its always good to hear these opinions. ;D Jess weren't you told that curiosity killed the cat!! ;D ;D. But on a serious note though when appraching a breeding and what I personally want from my dogs I always go by a quote I read in one of David Hancock's books, " A dog should be capable of doing the job It was originally bred for. Regardless of whether its asked to perform it or not" I feel as individuals that thre will always be room for improvement as our final outcomes will differ. So what you may think is perfect I will find room for improvement and vice-versa.
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Post by Rik on Oct 6, 2009 10:58:05 GMT
Don't get me wrong, this is just a question out of interest. You have a reason why you like them heavier on the front end? Looks or function?
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Post by tb68 on Oct 6, 2009 11:53:54 GMT
Don't get me wrong, this is just a question out of interest. You have a reason why you like them heavier on the front end? Looks or function? Please take time to read the post I have written above. I do not and never have breed for looks . If you research your bulldog history you will realise that the dogge was bred that way for a reason. Also please read the quote under my signature pic. If I bred for looks wouldnt that be a contradiction.
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Post by Jessica on Oct 6, 2009 12:13:50 GMT
I have learnt over time that peoples opinions and tastes when it comes to 'alternative' bulldogs vary dramatically. The problem i think is that most of our dogs are based on a somewhat vague descriptions, accounts and art work etc. We are all aiming for the same goal in the end i guess - just with different takes on it?. Each creator of the "alternative" bulldogge had their own set of goals and mental pictures when setting out to create their ideal dogge,hence imo the difference in type from strain -strain. I have to agree that during the course of my research I have noticed that each creators final outcomes are very similar. I also can appriciate your dogs but like you they wouldnt be my dog of choice. BUT we both are in a very exciting but also important position. What I mean by that is that we have been invited (as you know the bulldogge world is very small and selective where breeding is concerned) to continue the work started by others but at the same time be able put our own mark on our particular breedings.This I look at as a previlage as we have been entrusted with a life time of each creators blood, sweat tears and heart-ache. So its down to people like our-selves to continue the good work started by others. Just out of interest from one bulldogger to another, i hope you don't mind me asking you I'm just curious; what do you want out of your bulldogs? I know the aims as far as improving the British bulldog idea but is there anything more now that you have improved on them, or personal reasons as a breeder? It nice to have a bulldog man on here its always good to hear these opinions. ;D Jess weren't you told that curiosity killed the cat!! ;D ;D. But on a serious note though when appraching a breeding and what I personally want from my dogs I always go by a quote I read in one of David Hancock's books, " A dog should be capable of doing the job It was originally bred for. Regardless of whether its asked to perform it or not" I feel as individuals that thre will always be room for improvement as our final outcomes will differ. So what you may think is perfect I will find room for improvement and vice-versa. Thanks Tony for answering my nosey questions!! LOL It is nice to hear another opinion on the bulldogs, and what their plans and ambitions are within the dogs. I think it can only help us understand our own dogs better, i like to listen to what other breeders thoughts are. I can see you are passionate and compassionate about your dogs, and that can only be good for the breed. Steve is lucky to have people around him like you to promote and maintain his breed. You should come along to a S.A.C.S day soon with your lot, would be nice to see some more bulldogs there. ;D
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Post by Rik on Oct 6, 2009 12:32:25 GMT
Don't get me wrong, this is just a question out of interest. You have a reason why you like them heavier on the front end? Looks or function? Please take time to read the post I have written above. I do not and never have breed for looks . If you research your bulldog history you will realise that the dogge was bred that way for a reason. Maybe i've written down my question a bit wrong.... I don't know a lot about the history of the bulldogs. And know nothing about breeding them. That is why i asked the question. Could you explane the function of the heavier front compared to the bulldogs on the pictures to me? I'm just trying to lurn.
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Post by tb68 on Oct 6, 2009 17:14:09 GMT
Please take time to read the post I have written above. I do not and never have breed for looks . If you research your bulldog history you will realize that the dogge was bred that way for a reason. Maybe I've written down my question a bit wrong.... I don't know a lot about the history of the bulldogs. And know nothing about breeding them. That is why i asked the question. Could you explain the function of the heavier front compared to the bulldogs on the pictures to me? I'm just trying to lurn. The bulldogs short and slightly upward facing snout enables it to breathe while keeping hold of the bull's nose, its wrinkles allowed blood to flow away from the dog's eyes and nose, and its thickly-muscled neck and heavy shoulders and light hind end helped to prevent the thrashing of the bull's head from breaking the dog's spine. I hope this explains things to you . The dogs in the pics Steve and Jessica posted are IMO more akin to the dogs used to chase and harass the bull from its herd of cows. Where as the type I breed would of been the type of dogges used to actually bait the bull. If you compare the pics I posted of mine and those of Jess you will see what i mean..
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Post by tb68 on Oct 6, 2009 17:53:16 GMT
Thanks Tony for answering my nosey questions!! LOL It is nice to hear another opinion on the bulldogs, and what their plans and ambitions are within the dogs. I think it can only help us understand our own dogs better, i like to listen to what other breeders thoughts are. I can see you are passionate and compassionate about your dogs, and that can only be good for the breed. Steve is lucky to have people around him like you to promote and maintain his breed. You should come along to a S.A.C.S day soon with your lot, would be nice to see some more bulldogs there. ;D Where the alternative bulldogges is concerned my biggest bone of contention is all the people that are now jumping on the olde tyme bandwagon. Buying one strain indecriminatley breeding to another , Relabling there pups as their own and convincing joe public that they,ve been in the game for years and at the same time not giving the people who bred the original dogs any credit for the pain ,heartache sweat and tears that went into breeding their pup.
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