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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 22, 2009 15:26:53 GMT
could someone tell me were to get this australian stuff from and wil it put muscle on my dog with exercise
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Feb 22, 2009 16:25:52 GMT
Its more down to the amount of exercise you do with your dogs no ood will put on muscle if you only walk your dog a mile a day take him biking running build an a frame and a springpole.
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Post by dog on Feb 22, 2009 19:15:50 GMT
I get mine from the whippet and greyhound shop in Essex, I'm not sure if there are any suppliers near you, it's called Australian formula scientific greyhound diet.
No food will put muscle on in itself, I could eat a pure protien diet if I liked but if I sat on the sofa all day I would not put an ounce of muscle on. If you are doing lots of exercise and have inadequate amounts of protien in your diet then that could hinder muscle repair/production so it's important to be honest about the level of work the dog is doing and give them the diet appropriate for their activity levels.
Australian formula has a protien level of 28% and a fat content of 15.5% which is fine for most working dogs.
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Post by scylax on Feb 23, 2009 10:58:12 GMT
this stuff is good also www.redmills.ie/dogs.phpredmills leader energy is good A high protein, high oil diet for very active and competitive dogs. Using 100% natural ingredients based on prime chicken, it is completely balanced for the demanding nutrient requirements of the very active or working dog. Containing FOS (Fructo-oligosaccharides), Leader Energy is formulated so that your dog will maintain condition, coat quality and vitality following strenuous exercise or work. • Complete nutrition for the very active or working dog. • Exceptionally palatable to appeal to the “fussy” eater. • Packed with top quality ingredients to ensure that your dog looks and feels its best. • Contains Creatine and Betaine for muscle power. • Irish oats as a very special natural energy source . • Contains Vitamin C and Beta-Carotene – anti oxidants for sustained health and vitality. Raw Protein 32.00%, Raw fat 20.00%, Raw fibre 1.80%, Raw ash 9.00%, Moisture Content 10.00%, Calcium 1.50%, Phosphorus 0.90%, Sodium 0.40% , Magnesium 0.09%, Iron 75mg/kg, Zinc 70mg/kg, Copper (Sulphate) 15mg/kg, Selenium 0.2 mg/kg, Vitamin A 12000iu/kg, Vitamin D3 2200iu/kg, Alpha-Tocopherol (Vitamin E) 250mg/kg, Energy 18.30mj/kg
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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 23, 2009 19:26:56 GMT
so 1 hour walk and another hour of defferent exercises plus a good diet and i will notice a defference ? how long should the exercise last for a frame ect
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Feb 23, 2009 19:40:15 GMT
A frame is harsh on there bones i would only do this one or two times a week 4 mile walks work for me.or 2 mile bike rides (takes 5 mins everyday) Although im taking mine a little further each day i ride with them.I like to do 6-10 mile walks on the weekends. The more you put in the more youll get out start slow dont overdo them you know your dog better than anyone else so im sure you know when theyve had enough.
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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 23, 2009 19:40:43 GMT
ive been lookin at that site that xcel greyhound stuff looks good do u recomend it
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Feb 23, 2009 19:43:04 GMT
that food looks good by the way skylax do you feed yours it ?
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Feb 23, 2009 19:48:05 GMT
taysideterrier have you got pictures of your dogs m8 ? i dont think ive seen them ?
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Post by dog on Feb 23, 2009 19:50:20 GMT
A frame is very intense so should be kept to short bursts of around a minute, the number of reps is up to you but I would keep it low, perhaps 3-5 to keep his interest and prevent injury on what is a concusive exercise. The same with most other exercises as they tend to be quite intense, allow periods of rest...every dog is different and can do different amounts so keep an eye on him closely and see what he's capable of but the most important thing is to build his exercise up gradually, if you push too hard too quick he will get injuries that could be very hard for him to recover from.
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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 24, 2009 16:50:51 GMT
ye but im no good with computers cant put them up
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Post by scylax on Feb 24, 2009 17:09:34 GMT
that food looks good by the way skylax do you feed yours it ?[/quote yea m8 i had mine on it but feed barf now it worked for me and my lot redmills
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Feb 24, 2009 17:20:56 GMT
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Feb 24, 2009 21:22:24 GMT
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Post by Griffa on Feb 25, 2009 9:11:07 GMT
nice dog man looks sweet i find that if you let them jump around after a toy of stick hold it a bove your head and let him try and get it it builds up the back legs its nice and steady
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Post by martinl on Feb 25, 2009 9:50:15 GMT
nice dog, theres alot of red ones coming out of the woodwork lol.. i use india and a stick as a barbell and do curls with her lol she loves it
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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 25, 2009 20:29:15 GMT
thanx for the kind words but as u can see ure dogs look way more athletic
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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 25, 2009 20:35:26 GMT
this is a question to shakka now that uve seen her what would be the best way to exercise for a little more muscle tone im going to put her on xcel greyhound feed from redmill i just want to no whats a good way to build her a bit
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Feb 25, 2009 21:28:03 GMT
biking is the best imo and walking with chains or sledge on a harness. No good putting her on redmill unless you exercise properlly food - exercise will lead to fatt dog.
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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 26, 2009 19:19:58 GMT
say an hour to two hours a day walkin or biking to begin with
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Feb 26, 2009 19:33:53 GMT
yep 2 hours walking or 2 mile bike i would recommend, as you think your dogs can do more you can do more, my dogs dont even get out of breath now after 2 miles. Maybe im going too slow lol
how heavy is she only my opinion but she could do with a lil weight loss and muscles will show more. i may be wrong but weigh her let us know. like i say i may be wrong need to see a picture of her standing
she does look a lovly dog
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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 26, 2009 22:04:07 GMT
she ways 22 kg i agree she could do with a little wieght loss my a frame is near done so ill get her on that soon hopefully maybe every second day or two also she has a lot o loose skin round the neck not sure why ?
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Feb 26, 2009 22:34:23 GMT
wow i didnt think she was that bbig but yes take some of that weight off her by more exercise maybe a lil less food for a few weeks youll soon see the muscle showing look forward to seeing her in a few months
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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 27, 2009 16:19:53 GMT
kool ill send u pics as she improves
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Post by martinl on Feb 27, 2009 16:34:36 GMT
22KG? damn.. what do you feed at the mo?
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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 27, 2009 18:56:54 GMT
just now she is on pro plan
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Post by martinl on Feb 27, 2009 19:01:22 GMT
more exercise will do her the world of good and put years on her life.. get a ball launcher like ian says for a frisbe.. mine love it.. half an hour chasing that has them worked more then a 4hour walk.. but also as ian says make sure you always leave the field with her wanting more, and make it fun.. and not expect results over night..
Look forward to seeing more pics of her..
Martin
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Post by scot on Feb 28, 2009 11:18:15 GMT
taysideterrier pro plan is also good food m8
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Post by taysideterrier on Feb 28, 2009 16:26:44 GMT
ye but its not as good as redmills its for workin dogs and ive really upped her exercise
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