A frame Babs

[frank]

Yesterday Eliza tried some A-frame again with Babs after I think a 1,5 year break?
She was too heavy for her normal condition, and not trained at all. Eliza walked her only warm before she started.

And........she did 43 with her fingers in her nose ;-)
This lady is a natural, some training, and the 46's and 47's are in there again.

Eliza will try to repeat this at least at the Stafford Times in a few weeks :-)

[owasocourin]

shes a stunning bitch Frank, best of luck with her

[stefan]

That's an impressive result. Why don't you join the competition (Dutch Stafford Athletics)?

Anton and I have already registered Rommel and Dana for the DSA.

[anton]

Thats different cookie

[frank]

May 25, 2010 9:46:26 GMT anton said:

Thats different cookie

how different? Will they do 50's? ;D

[anton]

Translate it to dutch I was talking bout your bad translation of the dutch saying "met twee vingers in de neus"

[Shakka-Staffs]

Keep up the good work guys, but tbh i think this post deserves the pictures to go with it next time pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease.

[anton]

oldie of babs doing 44
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIyqM6zBFSk

[Shakka-Staffs]

Thanx anton

[frank]

May 25, 2010 18:07:27 GMT Shakka-Staffs said:

Thanx anton

Did you see the fauld jump? She has done it before this without the fault(and more jumps!). Eliza was operated shortly after this video, and she hasn't done it since, you can see the date in the filename.

[anton]

Next time ill be there with cam Frank

[mbb]

great video smashing dog how old is babs now

mark

[frank]

May 25, 2010 19:14:22 GMT anton said:

Next time ill be there with cam Frank

When there was a clear and simple system for the DSA at the Times with the different sports we would consider taking part in it, and maybe I could get some more people to join. But for that there should be just height or weight classes whatever, but no compensation points whatsoever. As I understand thats the case now?

[eliza]

Babs is 5,5 years now. She will be 6 in december

[mbb]

thanks we also gave honour a break for about 14 months she had a go last week and did 40 in 1min shes 6 yrs now
mark

[frank]

May 25, 2010 20:40:55 GMT mbb said:

thanks we also gave honour a break for about 14 months she had a go last week and did 40 in 1min shes 6 yrs now
mark

My idea is that you should not train to much on a-frame, not on anything actually, as the dogs keep finding it more fun.

Also to much A-frame is a big strain on the kidneys and joints.

So the oldies are still doing 40's, where are the youngsters??

[stefan]

May 25, 2010 20:11:03 GMT frank said:

May 25, 2010 19:14:22 GMT anton said:

Next time ill be there with cam Frank

When there was a clear and simple system for the DSA at the Times with the different sports we would consider taking part in it, and maybe I could get some more people to join. But for that there should be just height or weight classes whatever, but no compensation points whatsoever. As I understand thats the case now?

It's not only about the competition, it's about getting the feeling of success and having fun, spending time with your dog and give him a good workout and learning from others.

[quinlent]

May 25, 2010 20:11:03 GMT frank said:

May 25, 2010 19:14:22 GMT anton said:

Next time ill be there with cam Frank

When there was a clear and simple system for the DSA at the Times with the different sports we would consider taking part in it, and maybe I could get some more people to join. But for that there should be just height or weight classes whatever, but no compensation points whatsoever. As I understand thats the case now?

The system is very clear Frank!
every dog competes in his own class based on hight only.
it is only on the A frame that a small comensation is made for small dogs to achieve a bonus in the overall competition but A frame championship is awarded in every dogs class.

It was a thing we just had to do as the size of the A frame is a static one.

So no more excuses you have got some nice dogs and compete with us.

Cheers - Marco

[frank]

May 26, 2010 8:31:32 GMT @quinlent said:

May 25, 2010 20:11:03 GMT frank said:

When there was a clear and simple system for the DSA at the Times with the different sports we would consider taking part in it, and maybe I could get some more people to join. But for that there should be just height or weight classes whatever, but no compensation points whatsoever. As I understand thats the case now?

The system is very clear Frank!
every dog competes in his own class based on hight only.
it is only on the A frame that a small comensation is made for small dogs to achieve a bonus in the overall competition but A frame championship is awarded in every dogs class.

It was a thing we just had to do as the size of the A frame is a static one.

So no more excuses you have got some nice dogs and compete with us.

Cheers - Marco

I must say that I personally do not like compensations and such, and you also do not need that if you have for example 3 height classes.

If you just make those 3 height classes and forget all those compensations, you can count much more dogs in I guess. If there are 3 height classes, you just have 3 numbers 1. Best small dog, best medium dog, and best big dog, as I do not believe that you always can compare a small dog with a big dog. They are just on a different level.

Can you send me the rules and compensations?

[frank]

May 26, 2010 8:01:03 GMT stefan said:

May 25, 2010 20:11:03 GMT frank said:

When there was a clear and simple system for the DSA at the Times with the different sports we would consider taking part in it, and maybe I could get some more people to join. But for that there should be just height or weight classes whatever, but no compensation points whatsoever. As I understand thats the case now?

It's not only about the competition, it's about getting the feeling of success and having fun, spending time with your dog and give him a good workout and learning from others.

Your right, but.........competition is competition. You need to have the feeling that you can achieve something.

But as Marco describes, I have misunderstood the info I got, and there are no compensations and rules that put the small dogs in a better position. If so you can count Babs in, as I like a good competition, win OR lose.

[mbb]

May 26, 2010 5:20:42 GMT frank said:

May 25, 2010 20:40:55 GMT mbb said:

thanks we also gave honour a break for about 14 months she had a go last week and did 40 in 1min shes 6 yrs now
mark

My idea is that you should not train to much on a-frame, not on anything actually, as the dogs keep finding it more fun.

Also to much A-frame is a big strain on the kidneys and joints.

So the oldies are still doing 40's, where are the youngsters??

i agree to much a frame is very hard on the dogs hence the long break for honour shes had a break from everything just had walks and a play around i think its done her the world of good

as for the young ones here is our nell she was 2 in april this year

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SKeeSAnMC8

[quinlent]

May 26, 2010 15:25:34 GMT frank said:

May 26, 2010 8:31:32 GMT @quinlent said:

The system is very clear Frank!
every dog competes in his own class based on hight only.
it is only on the A frame that a small comensation is made for small dogs to achieve a bonus in the overall competition but A frame championship is awarded in every dogs class.

It was a thing we just had to do as the size of the A frame is a static one.

So no more excuses you have got some nice dogs and compete with us.

Cheers - Marco

I must say that I personally do not like compensations and such, and you also do not need that if you have for example 3 height classes.

If you just make those 3 height classes and forget all those compensations, you can count much more dogs in I guess. If there are 3 height classes, you just have 3 numbers 1. Best small dog, best medium dog, and best big dog, as I do not believe that you always can compare a small dog with a big dog. They are just on a different level.

Can you send me the rules and compensations?

We agree and in all disciplines each dog can gain his own points in his own class to become winner of his / her class but we also have an overal grand champion title the dog that does best at all levels compared with the winners of the different classes.

and perhaps it is a good idea to add ranking points for each class for an overall grand champion title. and drop the compensation rule on the A frame i'll discuss that with my team right away this evening when we train on our weekbreek that is.

but our main comment in the past was that the Grandchampion title then depents on the competition in the individual class instead of compare the results of each individual .... you get my point? It will not be the best dog but the dog with the weakest competition that wins this title and we think that is wrong.

but i'll discuss it this evening and see where it takes me.

Come on board you old rascal and lets have good times!

Marco

[frank]

May 26, 2010 16:36:45 GMT @quinlent said:

May 26, 2010 15:25:34 GMT frank said:

I must say that I personally do not like compensations and such, and you also do not need that if you have for example 3 height classes.

If you just make those 3 height classes and forget all those compensations, you can count much more dogs in I guess. If there are 3 height classes, you just have 3 numbers 1. Best small dog, best medium dog, and best big dog, as I do not believe that you always can compare a small dog with a big dog. They are just on a different level.

Can you send me the rules and compensations?

We agree and in all disciplines each dog can gain his own points in his own class to become winner of his / her class but we also have an overal grand champion title the dog that does best at all levels compared with the winners of the different classes.

and perhaps it is a good idea to add ranking points for each class for an overall grand champion title. and drop the compensation rule on the A frame i'll discuss that with my team right away this evening when we train on our weekbreek that is.

but our main comment in the past was that the Grandchampion title then depents on the competition in the individual class instead of compare the results of each individual .... you get my point? It will not be the best dog but the dog with the weakest competition that wins this title and we think that is wrong.

but i'll discuss it this evening and see where it takes me.

Come on board you old rascal and lets have good times!

Marco

For that Grand Champion title, you can also split this in the different height classes. But for that grand championship you could count at least 5 to 6 wins. Your always as strong as your competition, that counts for all classes.

If there is anything you like to discuss, you have my number ;-)

[openallhours27]

I think its a fab idea to have different classes for different sized dogs, especially as i own a little legs myself and she could never compete with the bigger dogs.