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Post by oldetyme on Jun 25, 2010 15:07:30 GMT
i would like to gather as much knowledge on the stockade and sparpit lines as possible. would appreciate any info folks, i.e. some of the main lines behind them, the important dogs, when these lines were started ect, ect.
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Post by terrierboy on Jun 25, 2010 15:29:45 GMT
stockade is mainly rapparee, dublin red, and a hint of psycho. the real sparpit for me comes through amos bane, jan's boy, grond, sillietoe,firey jack's pet (part stockade), although i dont breed for peds i try to stay away if i dont see any these names.
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Post by oldetyme on Jun 25, 2010 15:35:46 GMT
nice one carlos, like you say its better to have names like that in a ped, rather than some of the fancy show type champions!!
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Post by paddy on Jun 25, 2010 15:57:59 GMT
stockade is mainly rapparee, dublin red, and a hint of psycho. the real sparpit for me comes through amos bane, jan's boy, grond, sillietoe,firey jack's pet (part stockade), although i dont breed for peds i try to stay away if i dont see any these names. Mainly rapparee??...not the Stockade bred dogs i've got |
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Post by terrierboy on Jun 25, 2010 16:23:10 GMT
stockade is mainly rapparee, dublin red, and a hint of psycho. the real sparpit for me comes through amos bane, jan's boy, grond, sillietoe,firey jack's pet (part stockade), although i dont breed for peds i try to stay away if i dont see any these names. Mainly rapparee??...not the Stockade bred dogs i've got alrighty then smart pants ;D most have rapparee, dublin red and psycho, and a good amount of them dont have them either. please dont break down my post trying to put words in my mouth. go back to their ancestry and double check. if you talking about two or three generations of course it'll say stockade all over. i know tara, lioness and othes have other lines. i worded wrong when i said mainly i meant all the lines mention not only rapparee. hard to explain myself on the internet. if bludgeon bluckbuster is in your ped then you have rapparee. forgot betcgreen is part of it too. it'll be nice if you can contribute with more info to the question in hand. Maybe you want to cover the lack of knowledge i have about the stockade line, i just tried to help anyway. |
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Post by paddy on Jun 25, 2010 16:42:32 GMT
Mainly rapparee??...not the Stockade bred dogs i've got alrighty then smart pants ;D most have rapparee, dublin red and psycho, and a good amount of them dont have them either. please dont break down my post trying to put words in my mouth. go back to their ancestry and double check. if you talking about two or three generations of course it'll say stockade all over. i know tara, lioness and othes have other lines. i worded wrong when i said mainly i meant all the lines mention not only rapparee. hard to explain myself on the internet. if bludgeon bluckbuster is in your ped then you have rapparee. forgot betcgreen is part of it too. it'll be nice if you can contribute with more info to the question in hand. Maybe you want to cover the lack of knowledge i have about the stockade line, i just tried to help anyway. Whao easy tiger! wernt having a dig! ;D...theres one main ingrediant/line in Stockade bred dogs you didnt mention...i own a couple of Stockade bred dogs one quite tight so i know the line well...dont take this wrong...i dont breed dogs so how mine are bred is my business...the truth about the peds is already out there (but not from me)...lets remember these dogs have KC papers on...and for decades where kept amoung friends...if ya man oldtyme has bought a pup and is NOW asking about peds that sounds a bit arseaboutface to me  sorry i cant be more help |
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Post by terrierboy on Jun 25, 2010 17:01:53 GMT
would you have agreed if i said mainly flynn, dublin red and rapparee?
some of them have one but not the other. i'm having a dig too, oldtyme is not my man, is still get down with the females ya know. i know a person or two with stockades. i'm not pissed off, its the internet, the wrong message can get across
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Post by oldetyme on Jun 25, 2010 17:05:06 GMT
alrighty then smart pants ;D most have rapparee, dublin red and psycho, and a good amount of them dont have them either. please dont break down my post trying to put words in my mouth. go back to their ancestry and double check. if you talking about two or three generations of course it'll say stockade all over. i know tara, lioness and othes have other lines. i worded wrong when i said mainly i meant all the lines mention not only rapparee. hard to explain myself on the internet. if bludgeon bluckbuster is in your ped then you have rapparee. forgot betcgreen is part of it too. it'll be nice if you can contribute with more info to the question in hand. Maybe you want to cover the lack of knowledge i have about the stockade line, i just tried to help anyway. Whao easy tiger! wernt having a dig! ;D...theres one main ingrediant/line in Stockade bred dogs you didnt mention...i own a couple of Stockade bred dogs one quite tight so i know the line well...dont take this wrong...i dont breed dogs so how mine are bred is my business...the truth about the peds is already out there (but not from me)...lets remember these dogs have KC papers on...and for decades where kept amoung friends...if ya man oldtyme has bought a pup and is NOW asking about peds that sounds a bit arseaboutface to me sorry i cant be more help i just wanted to buy a pup that was bred down off sporting lines, and i knew stockade and sparpit were considered by most people a good place to look, i already knew a bit about them but wanted to know more as a keen student, I'm eager to learn. i just wanted to document as much about the lines and individual dogs for my own interest. |
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Post by fien on Jun 25, 2010 21:24:13 GMT
there is apparantly a book coming out to clear up all the bollox about this line by the guys that bred and owned them I thought they were off two lines mainly and people still call there dogs stockade when they only have a small percentage there is one guy I will have to ask and you know who he is paddy shame he aint on the net |
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Post by oldetyme on Jun 25, 2010 23:08:03 GMT
look forward to the book, love a good read.
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Post by fien on Jun 27, 2010 11:27:40 GMT
Mainly rapparee??...not the Stockade bred dogs i've got alrighty then smart pants ;D most have rapparee, dublin red and psycho, and a good amount of them dont have them either. please dont break down my post trying to put words in my mouth. go back to their ancestry and double check. if you talking about two or three generations of course it'll say stockade all over. i know tara, lioness and othes have other lines. i worded wrong when i said mainly i meant all the lines mention not only rapparee. hard to explain myself on the internet. if bludgeon bluckbuster is in your ped then you have rapparee. forgot betcgreen is part of it too. it'll be nice if you can contribute with more info to the question in hand. Maybe you want to cover the lack of knowledge i have about the stockade line, i just tried to help anyway. are you sure there is raparee blood there maybe some ?? or are you going on the KC ped ?? as I have looked at the true ped and it aint raparee on bludgeons blockbuster this is the case for stockades little terror/fearless serius produced stockades dutchess its something else or are we talking about another line that infused stockade with betchgreen/raparee/ironstone as for psycho it was one of his sons and is not a stockade dog but was bred to one of them so not in all peds |
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Post by terrierboy on Jun 27, 2010 22:25:36 GMT
alrighty then smart pants ;D most have rapparee, dublin red and psycho, and a good amount of them dont have them either. please dont break down my post trying to put words in my mouth. go back to their ancestry and double check. if you talking about two or three generations of course it'll say stockade all over. i know tara, lioness and othes have other lines. i worded wrong when i said mainly i meant all the lines mention not only rapparee. hard to explain myself on the internet. if bludgeon bluckbuster is in your ped then you have rapparee. forgot betcgreen is part of it too. it'll be nice if you can contribute with more info to the question in hand. Maybe you want to cover the lack of knowledge i have about the stockade line, i just tried to help anyway. are you sure there is raparee blood there maybe some ?? or are you going on the KC ped ?? as I have looked at the true ped and it aint raparee on bludgeons blockbuster this is the case for stockades little terror/fearless serius produced stockades dutchess its something else or are we talking about another line that infused stockade with betchgreen/raparee/ironstone as for psycho it was one of his sons and is not a stockade dog but was bred to one of them so not in all peds got it, i'm going with what's been publicized and according to this there's rapparee in some stockade dogs, nevertheless i care more about the dog on hand than pretty peds. I just use peds as a way of reference. according to this ped blockbuster does have rapparee, could be the wrong ped too, i wasnt there at the time of his breeding or any stockade breeding for that matter. www.staffordshirebullterrier.animalpedigree.com/modules/animal/dog.php?id=3975 |
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Post by paddy on Jun 28, 2010 14:57:19 GMT
It may just be me...but i have never understood why anyone would want to put their peds on line for the whole world to read...wots that all about?  'fien'...i have just sussed who you are ;D anyone else skiving off work with a hangover today?!..... ;D |
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Post by fien on Jun 28, 2010 15:04:48 GMT
are you sure there is raparee blood there maybe some ?? or are you going on the KC ped ?? as I have looked at the true ped and it aint raparee on bludgeons blockbuster this is the case for stockades little terror/fearless serius produced stockades dutchess its something else or are we talking about another line that infused stockade with betchgreen/raparee/ironstone as for psycho it was one of his sons and is not a stockade dog but was bred to one of them so not in all peds got it, i'm going with what's been publicized and according to this there's rapparee in some stockade dogs, nevertheless i care more about the dog on hand than pretty peds. I just use peds as a way of reference. according to this ped blockbuster does have rapparee, could be the wrong ped too, i wasnt there at the time of his breeding or any stockade breeding for that matter. www.staffordshirebullterrier.animalpedigree.com/modules/animal/dog.php?id=3975you have to start somewhere and I agree look at the dog but you need to know whats behind a dog , Im not sure about pedigrees being publicised, you are right bludgeons blockbuster is a raparee dog what im saying is he is not the true dog behind the breeding of the stockade as you wouldnt have the lines you already mentioned. I do know that one of the later breedings from stockade dogs was 100 % and maybe there was a reason why the true peds will never be out there |
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Post by fien on Jul 3, 2010 17:42:12 GMT
It may just be me...but i have never understood why anyone would want to put their peds on line for the whole world to read...wots that all about? 'fien'...i have just sussed who you are ;D anyone else skiving off work with a hangover today?!..... ;D I thought you might missed this post must off still been a little hazy at least we never lost 4-0 ;D |
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sorry i cant be more help