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Post by frankie on Dec 15, 2010 19:10:18 GMT
After a life time of Bull breeds and lurchers I'm considering getting something different, primarily because we plan on spending a lot of time travelling through Europe in a campervan and we have suffered a fair bit of stress with cops due to having Bull breeds with us in the past. Added to this the uncertainty of future BSL and, well, it might well be easier for us to have a wee rest from the Bulls.
Having seen some nice individuals (Maligater's Malinois, for example) I quite fancy a change, and have been thinking of what sort of breeds I might go for.
What would you all go for? My problem is even the non-Bull breeds I like have the stigma of being dangerous(at least in the ignorant eyes of many police officers)eg Dobermann. Might have to get myself that Cavalier King Charles to go with my Papillon after all, eh?!
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Post by neilsherlock on Dec 15, 2010 19:24:46 GMT
Patterdale, they go it all!
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Post by dog on Dec 15, 2010 19:54:27 GMT
Pointer.
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Post by jetts on Dec 15, 2010 20:11:20 GMT
I would first look at a rottie but the are considerd as dangerous.
I would look at breeds that can relax and the malinois are not known to be easy they can "´hard" not the best combo whit a lot of new faces and places.
risenschnauzers are cool.
howart is a cool bred to
german shepard working lines.
check them out.
sorry if my english is not the best.
good luck
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Dec 15, 2010 21:34:35 GMT
boston terrier small compact agile and fast. dunno if its classed as a bullbreed though ?
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Post by bobslurchers on Dec 18, 2010 21:56:51 GMT
I was going to suggest a rottie as they have a very good "personality", but not so good if your looking for a "nice doggy" type dog and I think they are on the BSL list in france.
What about a cross breed? Best of two breeds, but "its just a mutt" in the eyes of most people.
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Post by neilsherlock on Dec 18, 2010 22:11:37 GMT
yer, like a bull lurcher!!!!
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Post by matt on Jan 8, 2011 12:03:08 GMT
hairy lurcher for me,but a good little terrier comes a close second.
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Post by jorosie on Jan 8, 2011 13:03:19 GMT
What about a Pharoah Hound? It would enjoy travelling around, like the sunshine and would get on with your other dog. Plus they can really run and have agreat play drive. We have one at the rescue centre at the moment: www.bluecross.org.uk/2566-82357/Sandy.html |
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Post by dog on Jan 8, 2011 13:43:31 GMT
Pharoah hounds are fantastic, I had a look at them a while ago and I'd love one although they're quite rare in this country.
Do you know what cross she is?
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Post by jorosie on Jan 8, 2011 14:00:24 GMT
No - it is very hard to tell. She s very Pharoah-y in everyway really so I imagine the cross in something similar, perhaps a small collie type. I love Pharoahs - did you know they blush! If they got told off or are backing-off they get a blushing affect and thier cheeks go red!
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Post by paulibt on Jan 8, 2011 14:04:12 GMT
Are you looking for the second dog to be a bit of a guard/deterrent dog, just asking as you mentioned Maligater’s Malinois and Dobermans? If so, this will rule out most terriers, although the Airedale terrier (not a true terrier) was in its history a police/military dog, I’m not sure of their guarding instincts today. Would you want a real guarding dog? Or just a visible deterrent? A real guard dog may bring as many problems as a bull breed. If you’ve the space there are a few large fluffy herding breeds that look nice but make a wrong doer think twice like the Anatolian shepherd dog. Back to the “terrier” there is a dog called the Russian terrier developed as a guard dog for the RED ARMY looks fluffy but! I think they’re bred in Europe with strong guarding instincts I think the UK ones are easier but still need firm guidelines. The blend included the Airedale, the Giant Schnauzer, the Rottweiler, the Newfoundland, the Caucasian Ovcharka and the extinct Moscow Water Dog.
May be what you’re looking for? All the best Paul.
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Post by dog on Jan 8, 2011 14:12:00 GMT
No - it is very hard to tell. She s very Pharoah-y in everyway really so I imagine the cross in something similar, perhaps a small collie type. I love Pharoahs - did you know they blush! If they got told off or are backing-off they get a blushing affect and thier cheeks go red! I read that they blush, they're quite a unusual breed and are virtually free from genetic disease which is astonishing. They look like a running dog but are actually a hound both in name and nature. I saw a video of a pack of them hunting on a rocky hillside and it's an absolute pleasure to watch. I can't seem to find the video now, that's gonna bug me. |
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Post by jorosie on Jan 8, 2011 14:17:27 GMT
Yes - I have ran with one once before - lovely dog she was - bigger than the mix at the centre (the one I linked to in my original post). They are very hound-y in nature - really laid back at home though, and fairly easy to keep. Good looking dogs - sort of like giant bats! Im a massive fan of the Cirneco Dell' Etna too - which is a smaller sleeker version. Lovely dog! Very sweet natured but a real worker!
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Post by kirsty on Jan 8, 2011 22:34:39 GMT
i love pharoah hounds they are stunning dogs and havent been altered that much by the KC i keep telling shakka we should get one he (might listen one day)
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Post by frank on Jan 9, 2011 9:00:43 GMT
hairy lurcher for me,but a good little terrier comes a close second. For me the other way around, but both would do it for me. |
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Post by sehalani on Jan 9, 2011 10:12:10 GMT
Patterdale for me too! I had one about 20 years ago. Best 30 quid I ever spent. Heart of a lion,size of a....small dog I guess!lol
Would be great size for a campervan too and will alert you to any intruders coming your way.
Sometimes a bit too keen to mouth off but great little characters.
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Post by matt on Jan 9, 2011 18:23:09 GMT
great minds think alike hey frank,lol, will get a couple of pics of my hairey lurcher up for you to have a look at, hows things your end bud?
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Post by frank on Jan 9, 2011 20:18:40 GMT
great minds think alike hey frank,lol, will get a couple of pics of my hairey lurcher up for you to have a look at, hows things your end bud? Great m8. The pup had her first walk yesterday. She acted fine during the whole thing, although she is to young to hunt yet. Mid next year she will be started proper underground, she is 9 months now. Just put up two pics of her on my facebook, if you go to Lee's, you see me as a friend, add me and I add you. Like to see pics of your monster too!!!! |
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Post by matt on Jan 9, 2011 21:11:44 GMT
maybe we can make a trip out next year to see her work? ,you can see my dogs on face book ,kill two birds with one stone.  |
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Post by harley on Jan 9, 2011 21:46:35 GMT
I'm a big dog fan so I love Bull breeds, Dobermanns, Mastiffs and Rottweilers but I really love the Greyhound too. Not sure if the Grey would be a thought with you having Lurchers before?
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Post by frank on Jan 9, 2011 22:52:07 GMT
maybe we can make a trip out next year to see her work? ,you can see my dogs on face book ,kill two birds with one stone. Offcourse m8. Your welcome, Lee will be at my place severall times this year if everything goes as it should, so just hop in  Will be in the UK for some Terrier/Lurcher shows this year also, so you can join us I guess  |
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Post by poacher on Jan 10, 2011 8:57:44 GMT
I know a woman who has 6 pharoah hounds and by herown admission she wouldnt have one around kids , but they are mesmerising to look at. I would have thought a patterdale to hyper to be kept in the van as a pet, non of mine would have made good pets. what about a whippet small, small rations and dinner on the plate  Frank you ought to come to my show its a big one and always WORKING judges www.thepoacher.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=thepoachersrestshow2011chalets/camping/caravanning bar restuarant farm shop nursery military musuem |
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Post by matt on Jan 10, 2011 17:15:57 GMT
cheers frank , i will talk to lee and see what we can sort out. |
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Post by frank on Jan 10, 2011 19:50:22 GMT
I know a woman who has 6 pharoah hounds and by herown admission she wouldnt have one around kids , but they are mesmerising to look at. I would have thought a patterdale to hyper to be kept in the van as a pet, non of mine would have made good pets. what about a whippet small, small rations and dinner on the plate Frank you ought to come to my show its a big one and always WORKING judges www.thepoacher.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=thepoachersrestshow2011chalets/camping/caravanning bar restuarant farm shop nursery military musuem Made myself a member of your board! |
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Post by poacher on Jan 10, 2011 23:10:37 GMT
nasher?
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Post by frank on Jan 11, 2011 6:01:35 GMT
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Post by frank on Jan 11, 2011 6:06:37 GMT
Maybe I just go wrong with the puzzles?? Otherwise you make a account for me and email it to me? |
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Post by poacher on Jan 11, 2011 7:19:14 GMT
no it wont let you as theres already a Frank you need another user name try Frank..... with the full stops, or Eurofrank lol
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Post by frank on Jan 11, 2011 12:25:04 GMT
no it wont let you as theres already a Frank you need another user name try Frank..... with the full stops, or Eurofrank lol Ok, done only need acces now |
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