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Post by mbb on Oct 18, 2008 11:52:31 GMT
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Post by southern-staffords on Oct 21, 2008 19:28:02 GMT
Some nice looking Bulldogs on there. Nice to see, Thanks
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Post by Jessica on Oct 25, 2008 10:00:51 GMT
The bitch isn't too bad... but the male in my opinion is very overweight and very very bully! an is not a good example of bulldog. I doubt these dogs could do much buy the look of them? - maybe thats wrong of me to make such an assumption but i would like to be proved wrong.
Ken mollet worked very hard, and produced some good bulldogs.
When looking at these 'alternative' bulldogs people breed today - or any breed of dog for that matter, i always keep in mind the job the dog was originally meant for and ask myself is the dog i am looking at capable of achieving this??
Aswel as this i use my common sense and look at the dog and i can see if the dog is 'able' meaning is it able to preform basic natural movement if it cant its not right and shouldn't be bred let alone palmed off as a breed that once was a proud gladiator!!
Come on guys you are all 'dog men + women' you know when you see an athletic dog let alone a capable dog!!!!
Sorry to rant it is a subject very close to my heart ! no offense ment to anyone!
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Post by mbb on Oct 25, 2008 21:29:48 GMT
just thought some may be interested i remember reading about his work a good few years ago when he developed his version of a victoian bulldog as far as i know he was one of the first and at the time had some good dogs any improvment to this breed is good and a step in the right direction also its the first time i have seen any thing about these lines for a long time
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matt
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Post by matt on Oct 26, 2008 8:47:58 GMT
i agree with you jessica,they need a lot more outcrossing to achieve a more athletic dog, but that would take years to achieve, i personaly love the performance american bulldogs,and the johnson performance hybrid ,of witch i own ,she is naturally agile and fit for purpose. also the mastiff ambulldog crosses are an awesome dog , give me a bandogge any day. i would not have a unfit bowlegged overwrinkled dog in my yard.maybe a good diet and some proper excersise may help these dogs.talking of excersise must go walk my dogs .
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Post by Jessica on Oct 26, 2008 10:05:13 GMT
I don't want you to think i was having a pop at you mark. that wasn't what i was doing - sometimes things come across wrong on these forums!
It is always good to see what people are doing with their dogs and see new sites.
I don't know how involved this guy really was with Ken Mollet, but the dogs he bred were good dogs alot better than what this fella is breeding.
Who am i to say anyway?!
I think what you say is right Matt - although there is a thin line when crossing breeds IE bandogges or 'modern bulldogs' for that matter and they do tend to have aggression issues i do believe there is study on it i will try and dig it out it is to do with chemical in-balances in the brain...?I suppose its what an owner will tolerate as far as aggression goes, some people aren't bothered by it?
But there are a few lines of true pure bulldogs that are fantastically athletic and very able i suppose you could say they are more than capable of baiting bulls its just finding them.
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Post by mbb on Oct 26, 2008 16:10:01 GMT
no worries didnt think you were having a go you could be right the dogs on the site might be a long way from the original breedings probably using mollet name for breeding to make a bit of cash
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Post by kbkennels on Nov 1, 2008 13:13:16 GMT
my uncal breeds victoryan bulldogs very nice not over buy a lb and are active two
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Post by alza on Nov 1, 2008 14:32:05 GMT
hi can anyone give me any info on johnsons american bulldogs as i here a few people up here
saying there dogs are from johnsons line??alza
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Post by ragingstormkennels on Nov 1, 2008 23:39:19 GMT
Aparently its a good line of American Bull Dogs ....dont know too much about em but some of my friends have em.......generally good conditioned white Am Bull dogs ......very powerful.
Will try and find out some more :0)
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Post by alza on Nov 2, 2008 0:41:02 GMT
cheers for the info rsk..the lads who have these johnsons american bulldogs up here reckon the johnsons line is banned??
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Post by ragingstormkennels on Nov 2, 2008 1:27:07 GMT
No its not!! Some people love making up stories! haha how funny!
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matt
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Post by matt on Nov 2, 2008 8:53:01 GMT
the johnson american bulldogs are generaly larger than your performance lines of wich there are many. there were originaly two pioners of this old breed of bulldog. the american bulldog was slowly disappearing ,they were kept mainly by farmers in the countryside to catch semi wild cows and pigs,also to protect them from predators. jd johnson and alan scott searched the countryside for the best examples of the hill bulldogs. this was going well until the two fell out of freindship,they both carried on breeding bulldogs but the standards vaired between the two more and more ,johnsons dogs were bigger and more bully looking,due to outcrossing to the british bulldog and mastiff apparentaly. alan scotts dogs stayed smaller and more like the hill bulldogs of old . a lot of the american bulldogs we see today are hybrids of the two strains of wich i personaly prefer,the best of both worlds. as for the american bulldogs they are not banned in britain yet,but with some of the idiots buying this breed to look hard it wont be long, this is a great couragous breed but in the wrong hands can be lethal like most of our loved bull breeds. deed not breed.................
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Post by alza on Nov 2, 2008 12:36:13 GMT
thanx for the info matt..rsk i new they wernt banned..they lads up here are thinking there american bulls are from banned stock..now that i no a bit more i wont mind telling them there talking SHITE!!..LOL
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Post by ragingstormkennels on Nov 2, 2008 14:31:28 GMT
Hahaha you do that Alza......Matt has just provided all the info you need.
Its such a shame though....some breeders give their dogs to anyone and its the irresponsible owners that give the breed a bad name. Happens with all breeds unfortunately. :0(
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Post by alza on Nov 2, 2008 15:46:39 GMT
yeah your right..rsk..most of the breeders i have seen up here will sell there dogs to anyone with the cash..
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Post by dogboy on Nov 6, 2008 21:31:12 GMT
The guy who owns molletts bulldogs got all his dogs from Derick Mollett. And that black boy on the site can get in really good shape, but for some reason they run him really large. The bitches are ok, one of them is amazing (the white and brindle pied one) and is directly related to Ken's Boatswain. These dogs can get in shape and I know because I have one. But unfortunately no one does try any more as they are just happy to have a bulldog and feel to make it more "bulldoggy" they need an overweight one. As for this man breeding for money, I have no Idea. But what I do know is that he got permission from Ken's brother to use Ken or Derick's name, and I think he may even be Derick's step son. I don't know if that answered everyone's questions, if not ask away.
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