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Post by alza on Jan 3, 2009 19:38:41 GMT
hi everyone i may have a bit of a problem..i usallly am with kye 24/7 ..i walk him everywhere and now & then..my wife or 1 of my 2 sons..take him for a walk.. thing is they cant control him as when they walk him he bites the lead & trys too rag it..this dosent happen with me..also when of the lead he runs at them
and jumps up and is biteing now..this dosent happen when i am there..he also wont come back for them when called..as you can see this can be a bit of a problem when am not there too supervise..as i would like my family to be able to walk kye
any advise would be superb..alza
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Post by dog on Jan 3, 2009 20:17:11 GMT
I think this is a problem about pack order and Kye's respect (or rather his lack of it) for your wife and sons, I think he's seeing himself as being above them in the pack order with you at the top. You need to sort that out first and foremost because even a good dog can get out of control if it thinks it's the boss. It's not really about training him but more about training yourselves, it's quite a complicated problem and it's hard to know what to recommend because I don't know what he's allowed to get away with, generally speaking food is very important, he should preferably eat after the family has eaten, should not be allowed to beg for food and should have some basic things that humans are allowed to do but he isn't (like getting on the sofa, bed etc) I would take him to training with you and the family and address any particular behavioural problems (yours not his) you need to get this sorted soon before it gets out of control.
I trained my Macy to return to me on the whistle (I use a dog whistle but if you can whistle loudly that's just as good) I gave her a treat every time I blew the whistle and made a fuss of her and she returns very well now, you don't have to reward every time but I re-inforce the training every now and again so she thinks there may be something in it for her.
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Jan 3, 2009 20:21:31 GMT
a shaker bottle will stop him chewing his lead as small plastic bottle with gravel and pennies in it as soon as he jumps up shake it right in his face and say no.
recall for others get a wistle teach him in the house to come to the wistle you go in another room blow the wistle and whoever else tell him to go find you when he finds you give him a treat repeat this until hes got the hang of it. When you feel confident try it outside with your wife.
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Jan 3, 2009 20:23:01 GMT
damn owen u beat me to it your post wasnt there a minute ago lol
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Post by alza on Jan 3, 2009 20:58:03 GMT
hi dog shakka thanx for the info..the first day we got kye i told my wife & 2 boys about the pack order and kye should no his place..and its below us..kye is not allowed on the sofa & beds he gets food after us..i am a bit gutted as my wife has came back from a walk & she has said that dog!!dosent listen too a word i say.she was told too grab the scruff of the dogs neck & say NO he listen for about 5 seconds then goes mental again....i am a bit gutted because i thought i had kye trained as he sits stays takes & leaves when told..but i could not have trained him right as he isnt good with the rest of the family..thanx for the help alza
hi shakka i will try the whistle thing with the family..as i could be down stairs and kye upstairs & i just say come and he comes down...
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Post by martinl on Jan 3, 2009 21:08:19 GMT
We had a similar thing with lenny, theres soemthing about my dad he doesnt like.. i guess its true dogs can sence Illness and Bad Oras...
hes started listening to my mum now shes been firm with him and not saying "stop it poppet" in a girly voice.
hes getting there. had him 8weeks now. he wasnt trained to do anything in the 0weeks before we got him... maybe thats why hes such hard work?
hope you can sort this..
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Post by dog on Jan 3, 2009 21:12:19 GMT
You can train him as well as you like but if the rest of the family aren't training him as well then it could be pointless in regard to the way he acts when you're not there. As you say he doesn't do it when you're around so he knows he has boundries with you but equally knows those boundries don't count when you are not there.
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Post by alza on Jan 3, 2009 21:12:49 GMT
thing is m8 i have seen my family being firm with kye & he looks for a second then says aye right..until i say no!!...
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Post by alza on Jan 3, 2009 21:21:27 GMT
yeah dog thats what i need too teach kye is the rules still stay when i am not there..but also my family need to get involved in training with him too!!
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Post by dog on Jan 3, 2009 21:22:13 GMT
thing is m8 i have seen my family being firm with kye & he looks for a second then says aye right..until i say no!!... You need to step aside and let the others discipline him. Macy does this with me sometimes, others will tell her to do something and she looks at me as if to say " well? are you going to back them up?". I try to make them be tough with her so they know they have to listen to them as well. Dogs will always push their luck, it doesn't change with age. |
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Post by Shakka-Staffs on Jan 4, 2009 0:40:02 GMT
another thing is make him stay at the front door when you come home from walks your family should enter and exit the house b4 kye. And when you come home from work or whatever always greet your family b4 kye he will soon see hes the bottom of the pack.
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Post by alza on Jan 4, 2009 1:47:14 GMT
hi shakka yeah we all do that..when my wife came home from work tonight he started giong for her feet as if he wants too play..
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